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Who Poisoned my Tomatoes

by the_gardener @ 2008-06-20 - 11:56:37

Peat Bogs take many years to form and at the present rate of use they are being depleted. I therefore can understand the need to try and produce alternatives to Peat Based Compost. Many substitutes are being trialled. I am happy to use a good Peat Free Compost. Some even seem to have better re wetting properties that Peat Based ones.

Producers have to be very careful on the selection of material. Even regarding my own Compost Heap I am very careful about adding any weed treated grass cuttings. Every year a trained idiot from the idiot Local Council comes and sprays a very concentrated Non Selective Weed Killer along the edge of the grass verge where it joins the foot path and all around the lamp post which has its base in the verge. This results in an immediate death area of 100mm around the spray region followed by active growth of tall and creeping weeds weeds NO GRASS. For some time after the treatment I avoid the grass cuttings from the verge. If the Council comes to cut the grass they do not pick up the cuttings but distribute them across the road and footpath. After a time when the weeds are growing strongly I resume the verge cutting, getting in before the Council, the cuttings are then allowed on my Compost Heap.

What was that about Tomatoes? Well, it all started with a lady ordering some Compost from the Milkman, yes Milkman. She didn't realise what two 40L packs of Compost looked like and had no room for them in her flat, thus I was called in to take a 40l Pack off her hands.
This Peat free compost was the one that my Tomatoes were sown in. Germination was fine the plants a little leggy, from a late sowing too, strange that.

As growth proceeded they were transplanted into the same material. Shortly after a problem started to show both in transplanted and those not yet done.

I have blogged previously about the Local Ex Military Man and his Weapons of Mass Weed Destruction. He reported thin curled tops on his Tomatoes last year. I know he terrorises every weed in his grass and wouldn't mind betting he keeps his missiles in his greenhouse thus inviting such trouble.

I have no such weapons around yet those plants are showing classic symptoms.
I conducted a test. Three were plants transplanted into a) Wickes Compost b) J.A.Bowers Compost c) Compost X. I am not naming Compost X, the suspect, as I am in communication with them and they are acting very responsibly. Should they have acted differently this blog entry title would have been 'Compost X Poisoned my Tomatoes'.

The results so far are proving my suspicions to be correct, a) and b) are showing signs of improvement, c) in Compost X are looking decidedly sick. That is how I am feeling too, someone in the supply chain has failed in their duty of care. I have spent years avoiding the vile man made poisons in Weed Killers and Insecticides and have purchased Compost tainted with the stuff.

I have a further test going on. Three separate sowings of Tomatoes in the three different composts, I want to independently expose the culprit.

The only other sowing I made in Compost X was Sweet Corn, this is fine, further indication that the culprit is a Selective Herbicide.


 
 

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You have a well trained eye. That's a damn shame about your tomatoes. x

the_gardenerthe_gardener [Member]
2008-06-23 @ 11:00

Its ironic in that this year I started many crops later and I am trialling ways of delaying the cropping for later in the year.

The poisoned ones may grow through the problem and be delayed, the re-sown ones will definitely be later.

I won't be recommending weed killer to delay cropping.

FluffchuckerFluffchucker [Member]
2008-06-23 @ 13:20

Hi, As a very new convert to Organically growing my own Tomatoes, Sweet and chilli peppers, etc would you mind awfully if I asked you the odd question which might seem really simple?

The reason is that I don't really know what I'm doing other than I know to pick out side shoots and water and feed em LOL

If it's ok my first question is why is there a light browny dust mould or summit forming on top of the soil in the grow bag?

The Second:

How can I stop the wife eating all my cherry tomatoes off the plants while I'm out fishing??

Regards
FC

the_gardenerthe_gardener [Member]
2008-06-23 @ 14:55

Hi FC

A light browny dusty mould is a new one on me, however I don't use Growbags other than to empty them out if I found some offered cheaply.

The enclosed environment inside the bag can be difficult to keep wet enough and conversely easily get too wet which will encourage the growth of moulds and algae. It is difficult to keep the compost surface open.
What I would do in your case is scratch the compost surface over and add a handful of Sharp Sand to each planting hole. Ordinary Building Sharp sand will do, this worked into the compost will deter moulds and improve drainage.

As for the wife problem, hmm, you could tell her that there is Potato and Tomato Blight running rife this year. So what you have had to do, (definitely on you fishing days), is to spray them with a Copper Fungicide so rendering them not safely edible until tomorrow:-)

skip2468skip2468 [Member]
2008-06-23 @ 21:24

In NZ there are bad or really good seasons for tomatoes.

the_gardenerthe_gardener [Member]
2008-06-23 @ 22:29

Interesting.
We have just the one season. Except for the commercial growers who give artificial light and heat etc. and produce tasteless tough skinned crops. I suppose you could call that the bad season

Generally we start in early spring with a little artificial heat to get plants ready for an early start and catch Summer which comes on 2 days somewhere between mid July and mid August :-)

technomisttechnomist [Member]
2008-06-25 @ 14:36

Contaminates in bought-in compost is not something I have really thought about previously. Thanks for the insight.

the_gardenerthe_gardener [Member]
2008-06-26 @ 16:31

hi techno, I have not personally had it before thank goodness. I have blogged about Peat Based Composts being contaminated by merely being stored near the Weed Killer in the DIY stores or their warehouses and in transport. A snare for those who purchase garden stuff from those more used to Paint and Nails.

I also learned from a supplier of a batch of peat for compost delivered to a yard where the grass had been weed treated which became contaminated.

FluffchuckerFluffchucker [Member]
2008-06-26 @ 15:42

Chas,

I have access to loads of very fresh weed from the lake bed at work (fresh water) is this any good for composting?

Regards
G

the_gardenerthe_gardener [Member]
2008-06-26 @ 16:47

G, Most definitely, I have just started cropping Duck Weed from my pond. Every year it grows rapidly covering the complete surface, remove a bucket full turn round and it is covered again.
The water becomes nutrient rich and supports rapid growth, it can't get any more that 100% covered so removal for composting is a great way of killing 2 birds with one stone, deplenishing the pond, enriching the soil.
If a natural pond has run off from farm land it may well get Nitrogen Fertilizer enriched. Taking the weed for composting means you have added an organic break between the chemicals used on the land and your compost. May be not 100% for the purist but better than resorting to chemicals yourself.

Personally I am happy to feed a lawn with chemical nitrogen and compost the cuttings. The secret with Pond weed or Grass Cuttings on the Compost Heap is not too much of either between the mixed layers.

FluffchuckerFluffchucker [Member]
2008-06-27 @ 07:38

Excellent cheers!!

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